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pallavikawale
01-08-2010, 06:08 PM
Hi,
I just migrated to Australia and currently doing Certificate IV in HR from TAFE. I have a Bachelor's degree in Science from India and have a work experience of five years in administration and customer service back office operations.

I am looking for an entry level role in HR where I will be able to build my knowledge and gain some experience . Please advice.

thodep
04-08-2010, 12:04 PM
i have the same problem . i wish there is anybody to advice us

Moz
04-08-2010, 12:16 PM
pallavikawale and thodep,

How are you looking for work?
What have you done so far?

Moz

pallavikawale
04-08-2010, 12:27 PM
Hi Moz,

I am applying for all the entry level jobs as HR administrator ,coordinator and looking for some exposure towards a generalist HR profile. I also became a member of AHRI.
Can you please advice me on this matter?

Thanks,
Pallavi

Moz
04-08-2010, 01:06 PM
There is considerable competition for entry level roles at the moment from HR graduates.

I would suggest increasing your exposure to potential opportunities by applying directly to companies who are not advertising positions. Sometimes being in the right place at the right time can pre-empt a company advertising a position, especially if you are available immediately, on either a casual or part time basis (you should consider everything just to get your first job in Australia).

What are AHRI doing to help you?
Have they provided any advice?

pallavikawale
04-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Yes I am considering every single opportunity,casual,part time or even voluntary is fine with me.
But I have not tried the option of applying directly to the companies without any advertisement so I will definitely do that.
About AHRI, I thought knowing what goes on in the HR world would be a good idea to start with.

Thanks,appreciate your response
Pallavi

The Y-man
06-08-2010, 04:03 PM
Hi Moz,

I am applying for all the entry level jobs as HR administrator ,coordinator and looking for some exposure towards a generalist HR profile. I also became a member of AHRI.
Can you please advice me on this matter?

Thanks,
Pallavi

Have you got any response at all - i.e. have you got to an interview stage (not interview with recruitment agency - but actual employer) or not at all?

The Y-man

pallavikawale
06-08-2010, 06:26 PM
Have you got any response at all - i.e. have you got to an interview stage (not interview with recruitment agency - but actual employer) or not at all?

The Y-man

Thanks for reply Y-man!

I am applying for all available jobs since last 2 months but didn't hear anything from agency or actual company. I am still waiting for my first Interview call ! :(

Let me know if you ( or anyone) have any advice for me, I will really appreciate that.

Regards
-Pallavi

desperatelyjobless
11-08-2010, 10:44 PM
Hi Pallavi,

You need either permanent residency or australian citizenship to be able to work for any organisation. Work visas are temporary and will mean that companies have to sponsor you later on. Most companies, unfortunately, will not accept anyone without pr or citizenship.

pallavikawale
12-08-2010, 09:15 AM
I do have a permanent residency but unfortunately I do not have any OZ experience so I guess companies are reluctant to give me a chance regardless of my experience in an International company :(

Moz
12-08-2010, 09:52 AM
The reality is that many employers and recruiters discriminate, either consciously or sub-consciously. It may not be racial discrimination, but it may be discrimination on the basis of where you gained your qualifications and experience (there is a subtle difference).

I suspect this is particularly common with HR because every country has different employment law and industrial relations systems, so if there are applicants with local HR experience and/or qualifications, they will often be favoured (rightly or wrongly) over people with qualifications and experience in foreign countries.

Age discrimination is also very common and companies are often reluctant to employ people in junior positions when they have held more senior positions previously.

I'm sorry to say there is no easy way around this, you just have to persevere until you get a break. However, it may be worth seeking the help of a good career counsellor to make sure your resume and covers letters are as good as they can possibly be.

pallavikawale
12-08-2010, 10:44 AM
I agree the discrimination might be sub-conscious and there are few who would want to invest in a candidate without any local experience.I am being patient for my first break in the industry.
I am not sure how to get enrolled in a recruitment company for job opportunities .I filled out so many forms on their websites and tried calling them to fix an appointment which was not successful.
Any one has a suggestion regarding this?

The Y-man
12-08-2010, 11:44 AM
I have a Bachelor's degree in Science from India and have a work experience of five years in administration and customer service back office operations.


What area of the sciences was your major in?

The Y-man

pallavikawale
12-08-2010, 11:46 AM
What area of the sciences was your major in?

The Y-man

I Major in Physics, Mathematics and Electronics.

The Y-man
12-08-2010, 12:14 PM
I Major in Physics, Mathematics and Electronics.

Ok, if I was employing, my first question would be "How do you see your Science Degree fitting in with your aspiraitons in HR?"

My first thoughts would be:
1. lack of consistency - why does this person want to change career path?
2. why aren't you applying for jobs requiring Phys/Maths/Electronics?

The Y-man

pallavikawale
12-08-2010, 01:08 PM
Ok, if I was employing, my first question would be "How do you see your Science Degree fitting in with your aspiraitons in HR?"

My first thoughts would be:
1. lack of consistency - why does this person want to change career path?
2. why aren't you applying for jobs requiring Phys/Maths/Electronics?

The Y-man

My answer would be.

My Science degree will help me measure, calibrate, and analyse; some skills that every HR needs and my previous job experience gave me an insight into my ability to be interactive, motivational and a good coordinator and above all a friendly attitude and good listener.
This is the reason I want to be in HR and took my first step towards it by enrolling myself into C IV in Human Resources where I start from the basics and hope to achieve a lot in future by combining my abilities, my education and experience.

Regards,
Pallavi

D57
10-09-2011, 10:09 PM
Hey pallavi, why don't you try to take an internship in HR or work for free for the start, to make you way into the industry?

In fact we are almost in the same boat, but me is yet to arrive in Sydney.

Try with what i said maybe after 2-3 months of same you will get lucky.
Usually it does work when you can show in your CV any local experience, even unpaid.

Hope it gonna help.

Qld IR Consultant
11-09-2011, 04:55 PM
My only advice is deal directly with employers whenever you can. Don't rely on recruitment firms to do it for you.

People Person
12-09-2011, 10:37 AM
There are a lot of reasons why people can't get into HR. But, I agree there is discrimination in a few areas. Age and nationality apply is a barrier to Australian employment generally, not just HR. Also, I think there is a tendency to employee females for entry level HR positions because the work is administrative and there is a tendency to sterio-type females into people-oriented roles. This is naive and wrong.

I have 15 years experience in HR, I am Aussie, but I miss out on the job opportunities I want, too. At the end of the day, I have had to settle for tedious HR generalist roles that no longer hold any appeal. But the recruiters don't care about my feelings. They are just happy they can put forward a candidate that has broad and senior experience. I can't move sideways or out - all they see is what I've done before - not what I can do in the future or what motivates my career now.

So be careful what you wish for - you could end up dieing there!

soniat
29-10-2011, 04:15 PM
If you've no experience - do some work experience. It may be your only way to get some on the job experience, and it shows potential employers that you're keen and have the get up and go.....

Subu
09-11-2011, 05:56 PM
Hi Pallavi,

I recently joined this forum and picked up your old post. I am happy to assist you. I have a long and extensive HR experience across different countries and industries. We have recently established a small Sydney based HR consulting organisation.

Please ping me back if you need assistance.

Regards

pallavikawale
14-11-2011, 03:14 PM
Hi Subu,

Thank you for your reply. I would be happy to know more about your organization and get assistance in HR.
Regards,
Pallavi

bipin.theachiever
23-07-2012, 03:34 AM
hey hiiiii all..
i am new to the forum and planning to migrate OZ n near future.Dear i came across your post and it really forced me to give a second thought regarding my decision to migrate from india.i have done my MBA in hr from mumbai and around 3 years of experience in HR Generalist field.
so pallavi would it be a wise decision for me????
are you secured any job as of now as your desired profile in aus??
will be happy if you can assist me.

Regards,
Bipin.

aus_hrp
25-07-2012, 10:07 AM
hi Pallavi,

I am new to Perth as well and am looking out for some inputs from people who have been trying to get into the HR field. I have worked in the Training and Development field in India and hope to continue my career in the same filed here. However, the responses have not been great owing to lack of local experience. I am planning to complete a certification IV in Training and Assessment here. I am overwhelmed with the options of training institutions available and the modes of delivery. I am confused between taking up the course online or through blended delivery. Since, you have completed a certification, can you please share your insights on this?